Discussions on Lupin inoculant
(10/5/05 - 10/24/05)
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postings: 6
countries: Bolivia, USA (Florida, Hawaii, New York)
agencies/institutions/organizations: Barking Frogs Permaculture Center, Cornell University Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005
Subject: Lupin INOCULANT?
To: MULCH-L@cornell.edu (MULCH-L)Does anyone have a source of lupin inoculant in the USA? My usual inoculant sources don't have it. I don't need a whole lot, but I sure need it.
Dan Hemenway
Barking Frogs Permaculture Center
Florida USA
______________________________________________________________ Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005
From: Steven Vanek
Subject: Lupin inoculant
To: mulch-LDan,
I assume you've been to peaceful valley webpage, www.groworganic.com.
There is a source for Tarwi, Lupinus mutabilis here in Bolivia. A few years back I think I got some lupin inoculant from Urbana Labs in the US. googling urbana laboratories led me to some pretty strange links but on a syngenta page from the same search I got the following ref: 1-800-892-2013 (Urbana Laboratories). They had a couple of "lupinus special" inoculant mixes at that time which would probably be a good shot.
Nitragin is another inoculant company. Their webpage, www.nitragin.com, has a product list w/o lupin, but if you get their phone number from the contacts subpage and talk to someone they probably maintain a big range of products.
Inoculants are typed with letters and if you know which type lupines take, you might be able to use one that is sold for another leg. species but has the right letter type for lupines.
Good luck, and let me know what you find. I might be doing some tarwi work back in the US at some point.
Best, Steve Vanek
Steven Vanek
Graduate Student
Soil and Crop Science, Cornell University
Casilla 3183, Cochabamba BOLIVIA
tel. 591-4-452-4264______________________________________________________________ From: YankeePerm@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:16:18 EDT
Subject: Re: Lupin inoculant
To: MULCH-L@cornell.edu (MULCH-L)
Thanks Steven and regards to your parents.
Lupin takes its own inoculant, not cowpea or clover or any of the others. Some legumes can work with many species of Rhizobia, but, alas, not Lupinus.
Dan Hemenway______________________________________________________________ From: "william cook"
To: mulch-l@cornell.edu (MULCH-L)
Subject: Inoculants/Info
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005
We have a Federal project here which has run for many years concerning leguminous Nitrogen fixation. The NIFTAL project.... See:
http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/ctahr2001/TPSS/facultystaff/profiles/singletonP.html
WmCook
Honolulu______________________________________________________________ From: Rebecca Nelson
To: MULCH-L@cornell.edu
Date: October 16, 2005
Subject: Inoculants
Can anyone steer me towards a good source of information on the role / importance of legume inoculants in the context of African smallholder production?
Many thanks, Rebecca Nelson______________________________________________________________ From: YankeePerm@aol.com
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005
Subject: Re: Lupin inoculant Attn: Steve VanekHi Steve:
Thanks for the leads on Lupin inoculant. We did find a source, and I'll cc this to our other computer from which I can send it to you. It was a special order deal, $10 for 3 oz with a 6-week interval between ordering and delivery (so they are probably getting it from someone else.) Peaceful Valley used to carry the lupine inoculant, but it has not been in their catalog the last few years.We have been having a hard time finding lupines that make it here in North Central Florida, at least not without more fuss than I want to give. I suspect that it is the nematode population of our sand (not sandy soil, sand) and also the severe drying of the sand between rains. I'm trying a Texas species (Lupinus texanis or something like that) hoping that it will be better adapted. Under what conditions does tarwi grow? A lot of stuff from tropical highlands will not grow here because or our extremes of our humidity. (We have high humidity even after long drought.) I'm mainly interested in lupines as an attractive nitrogen fixer for agroforestry type situations. OK, mainly I like to look at them in blossom, but I'm all for getting the N in useful places and any other benefits I can get as well.
Dan Hemenway